P2PU/School of Data Meeting
Thursday August 30. 4PM UTC 

Agenda:
  1. Feedback on schoolofdata.org (review session with designer scheduled 28/8)

Things to think about:
- How do we keep stuff fun! Not just dry technical documentation.
- Cohorts


P2PU/School of Data Meeting
August 21st, 2012, 4pm UTC (5pm BST, 6pm CEST)

Attendees
Vanessa
Laura Newman
Michael Bauer
Tom Longley (Tactical Tech)
Jen Lowe

Agenda:
  1. Updates / Introductions
    1. Laura's back!! Yayyyy! ;)
    2. OKFN now at the writing stage - getting challenges up on P2PU, working the Data Wrangling Handbook into state
    3. Introduction Tom Tactical Tech. Want to do courses using landgrabbing data (http://schoolofdata.okfnpad.org/8) <---that is SO AWESOME
    4. Vanessa has been working on assessment plan / cohorts / how to help course creation&badge design etc. 
    5. http://mechanicalmooc.org/ - launched today! (Groups people). Philipp also back! Yay!!! 
  2. Learning Challenges
    1. Differences between Challenges, Courses and Groups <- clarify terminology
    2. Right now:
      1. Challenges: https://p2pu.org/en/groups/how-do-i-make-a-badge/ UI is quite distinct, clean; social apsects are that people are working at own pace, so they may feel a little alone. Badges associated with them.
      2. Course:  No badges, less clean UI
      3. Groups
    3. Future: (very much still in the development stage)
      1. Courses
      2. Cohorts
    4.  A lot of differentterms for different things / not too clear - some intermingling, confusion in the p2pu urls.
      1. confusion not unique. Lots of experiemntation going on - trying what works, taking the best. Process of unification,completed mid Sept. For now, use Challenges UI, but call them 'courses'.  'Cohorts' will replace 'groups'. (At the moment, groups are EVERYONE taking a course. In the future, there will be the oppotunity to manage cohorts - several cohorts within what used to be a 'group').
      2. Advice from Vanessa is to use the current terms / structure, and be assured that they'll help migrate it to new, updated ones later.
    5. [Development ideas, iterating]
    6. Organising the 'bigger picture' in P2PU.
      1. Challenges are made up of smaller tasks.
      2.  https://p2pu.org/en/groups/novice-1-finding-the-data/ <- the initial challenge Michael created... how do we group them? P2U experience is that learners tend to zigzag around a lot - interest based learning. Organising principle more for course writers than for learners.
      3. https://p2pu.org/en/schools/school-of-webcraft/sets/webmaking-101/ 
      4. Cluster of skills     is a good organising principle. Idea to have a diagram, which links out to individual P2PU challenges.
        1. It *is* possible to tag... is that enough for us? Is it possible to browse tags? - yes, but limited to left hand nav.
        2. https://p2pu.org/en/groups/?all_languages=on&featured=community
        3. Can recommend and link challenges from one another. 
        4. Challenges should be as stand alone as possible.
  3. Building stuff on P2PU
    1. Sandbox?
      1. Possibly easier to play around on an etherpad / GDoc.
      2. Original idea was that courses would be created in one sitting - the collaborative, editing process is gradually being added
      3. Possible to change URLs via the helpdesk
    2. Create a Course: https://p2pu.org/en/groups/make-a-course/
      1. https://p2pu.org/en/groups/make-a-course/content/bonus-task-playstorm/
    3. Struggling with uploading screenshots (sorry!)
      1. Possible. Example: https://p2pu.org/en/groups/get-cc-savvy/content/elements-of-a-cc-license/
      2. Three alternatives: allow it to hang off the side of the column, thumbnail link to an alternative page (wordpress solution), take a smaller bit of the screen and then it can be bigger!
      3. Michaels solution: https://p2pu.org/en/groups/novice-2-basic-datawrangling-with-spreadsheets/content/importing-you-data/
      4. ... Tom's idea: a widget? something for p2pu to look into.
    4. Moving stuff around once it's been written. A larger question - moving stuff into and out of the School of Data.
  4. Basic P2PU usage
    1. [How can we add Michael People to https://p2pu.org/en/schools/school-of-data/ ? - Make each other admins...] - solved, LN can do
    2. How to create Sets (as in school of webcraft?) Idea create multiple Challenges with one common goal: https://p2pu.org/en/groups/novice-1-finding-the-data/ (#1, #2 is in the making)
    3. Can we import other peoples challenges or "feature" them.
      1. Currently unanswered: in School of Ed people apply to be part of it. School of Open: repurpose existing challenges and included them in the School. Just be open about the criteria for including and excluding.
      2. "Clone" existing courses into School of Data courses.
  5. Walkthroughs vs. videos vs...?
    1. Thinking through different 'handbook' styles; about how to do explain the v geeky to the potentially non-geeky cf Instructables (old but good) vs technical documentation approach
    2. http://multimedia.journalism.berkeley.edu/tutorials/spreadsheets/
    3. Different styles of learning - audio / visual / creative etc. Quirky cartoons. Not just dry documentation!
    4. https://p2pu.org/en/badges/
    5. Bring the funny!
  6. Feedback on Tactical Tech's proposal for a Landgrabbing track: http://schoolofdata.okfnpad.org/8 - give feedback within 24 hours. 
  7. Cohorts
    1. Testing cohort / any further developments?




P2PU/School of Data Meeting
August 6th, 2012 7pm EST

Attendees
Vanessa
Jen

Agenda:
  1. Update on curriculum--any questions--next week will be curriculum week [Friday August 17th at 8am PST 11am EST]
    1. playtesting curriculum
    2. badge combinations for graduation
  2. Assessment 
    1. Have seen badges--webmaking 101--but it's a bit unclear
    2. Types of badges
      1. Skill badges--https://p2pu.org/en/groups/writing-for-the-web/content/find-your-web-voice/
        1. show up in comments
        2. require 1 vote
        3. usually associated with traits
      2. Community badges
        1. require evidence that you've completed a project
        2. https://p2pu.org/en/badges/html-basic/
        3. decide how many people need to vote to get the badge
        4. embedded rubric
      3. Stealth badges
        1. awarded automatically in tandem with activity/usage on the site
        2. no peer review
        3. more gamification oriented
    3. Badge gallery: https://p2pu.org/en/badges/
    4. OKFN: leaning towards community badges/evidence-based assessments
      1. certification of completion? / graduation from School of Data
    5. http://info.p2pu.org/2012/06/13/all-about-badges-how-they-work-their-future-at-p2pu/
  3. Update on cohorts
    1. Testing with MIT Open Course Ware - testing group size & time zone
  4. Design Qs--to be addressed LATER
    1. feedback to Sam
    2. need a P2PU School shield
    3. https://p2pu.org/en/
    4. Who designs your badges?


P2PU/School of Data Meeting
July 5, 2012, 3pm UTC (4pm BST, 5pm CEST)

Attendees:
Vanessa, Learning Lead P2PU
Laura Newman, School of Data coordinator (OKFN)

Questions & Agenda:
1) Intros and hi :)
2) Apologies - Laura has not done the intros as promised :(
3) Curriculum design
3a) Cohort model...
4) Platform and hosting
5) Assessment design
6) Launch dates

Notes: 
* Vanessa is 'learning lead' - manages badges and assessment, platform design, work with researchers to make P2PU a research platform (i.e. people can do research on the P2PU community)
* Strong data and visualisation background

Curriculum:
3 levels students can start at
Intermediate: Let people use their own data--come in with their own datasets
Beginner: Preexisiting dataset, then a simple datacleaning map

Important to OKFN: Path you can take from beginning to end, and be able to move around (P2PU seems too linear)
How to support complete beginners, without becoming too prescriptive?

How to facilitate / enable cohorts, whilst allowing people to move around... 
Currently experimenting with group size, mixing skill levels, mixing learning styles. Hoping to get something together by the Fall.
Cohort model new. (DIY U)

Model of expert teaching you - damned if you miss it ;) Challenge model was meant to get around that somewhat - but actually it *didn't* quite manage the 'we're all in it together' feel

Traditionally, Schools have been hosted on P2PU website  - advantage that we get plugged in to P2PU community, disadvantage that it might not allow for such clear branding - ongoing concern with the linearity.

https://p2pu.org/en/groups/?all_languages=on&school=7 - would this be the School of Data page?

How does badges model work with the non-linear approach? 

Actions:

* Get something up on https://p2pu.org/en/groups/?all_languages=on&school=7
* Jen and Vanessa to chat more frequently in the near future
* Laura to get Jen up to speed on the idea of badges ;)
* Laura to catch up on the introductions she promised (sorry.....!)

Decisions still to be made / figured out: 
* Where is the School of Data going to be run from
* What do we think about the linearity? Is it problematic? Necessary? If we do want to change that, what could/should be done?
* Ongoing investiagtions into how best to form cohorts, how to get the best groups set up in a reasonable time frame.