Community Call 23 August 2012
Attendees (welcome to any newbies)
- Add your name (and twitter handle) here
- Vanessa (@mozzadrella)
- Bekka
- dirk
- Piet
- Philipp
- Chris
- Molly
Standups What have you been up to? Short written notes (we'll discuss only if there are questions)
- Bekka
- Finance handover
- Community emailing
- Writing up Berlin
- Stats crunching (for newsletter)
- Prepping next newsletter - any suggestions welcome
- Watching a LOT of cricket
- Vanessa
- Mechanical Mooc stuff: blog posts, loose ends, begging Dirk for help, etc.
- Around 1700 signups as of yesterday :)
- User testing research presentation
- Course creation research project
- DML research coordination
- School of Data coordination--helping shape the larger curriculum in light of interest-based learning
- All of the DML webinars/hangouts/administrivia
- Working on Project page for Mechanical MOOC
- Googlehangout with OpenPhDs later today (possibly)
- Chris
- CSS framework has good progress made.
- We will have all the styles in a good place for early next week to start using it
- Philipp
- Shuttleworth funding
- Mechanical MOOC basking in the limelight
- Getting back into the swing of things
- Dirk
- Learn page updates - see alpha.p2pu.org
- School of Open in footer - see alpha.p2pu.org
- trying to move archive.p2pu.org to shared hosting
- Jane
- School of open logo http://info.p2pu.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/schoolofopen-eh3-dark.png is the winner!
- Piet -> I feel a bit uneasy about "CC" being on the logo. while CC is a main partner in the SoO, it's not the only group or set of individuals involved. plus, the SoO is about more than copyright or licensing. it's huge as it should be. the more the logo reflects CC, the less *diverse* participation we'll see (I think). I really want to see groups like FreeSkool and various Occupy movements get involved, and CC might be a deterrent.
- I thought the same today. Does it exclude other open licenses like the OSS licenses etc.
- Does it give us legitimacy and branding power that is useful? It can be CC-sponsored/supported--CC has like, 60,000 twitter followers
- CC's participation and support definitly supplies great legitimacy and branding power. that can be leveraged in many ways, but doesn't mean the logo needs to include CC.
- Philipp -> I agree that having a strong partner can drown out other partners, but it's a delicate balance - the reality is that CC brings a huge, and diferent audience, and providing support in terms of Jane's position, and other logistics. Perhaps we can find a way that the CC logo can be used in a more subtle way
- I see no issue in putting the CC logo on the school of open site - I just think the school's logo should be more, well, open...
- School of Data - Nice logo with OKFN branding in the logo http://schoolofdata.org/
- Isn't that the OKFN logo?
- I see that the Webcraft logo has Mozilla prominently placed and i understand why you want to do that. I do wonder what message that sends though (sponsoring a school gets you advertising space).
- Running School of Open openly on trello (https://trello.com/b/slWxdy0L) and elsewhere as noted in discussion list: http://groups.google.com/group/school-of-open
- Ready to rock at OKFest in Helsinki w/School of Data -- feedback welcome on workshop format: http://etherpad.creativecommons.org/p/Open%20Peer%20Learning%20Workshop
- Going to be running mini-workshop for CC staff at in-town-week
- Joint convening w/37 major funders, "open" leaders, and CC affiliates (including P + D) is coming along, now has a wiki page: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Open_Policy_Institute/2012_Convening
- Iterating on courses with Open.Michigan!
- NWP has expressed interest in co-creating a future course for their educator community on CC tools-->that's *awesome* Jane
- Add your name (optional)
News of the week Written notes on what's going on in our world (bring up special announcements on the call)
- Blog posts you wrote
- Articles you read
- Initiatives you heard about
Key updates Super short updates about P2PU
- Exciting new courses to check out (Bekka)
- Development priorities (Dirk)
- Release next week - not a major release
- Learn page improvements
- School of Open in footer
- CSS framework
- Psyched about this--will it make our CSS cleaner? Fonts, corners, etc?
- Courses, Challenges & Groups -> Courses
- Course creation
- That research will be complete this weekend, Dirk :) I'll pass it to you ASAP.
- Server upkeep
- State of the mustard (Philipp)
- Stats slightly down this month (5%)
- Haven't had time to investigate but probably just be the post-Berlin blues
- What about blog traffic? One sec ... huge spike since the Mechanical MOOC announcement
Agenda Core of the call. Focused on four types of conversations (invited guests, challenges you need help with, proposals you want feedback on, ideas you need collaborators for).
- Support for Schools
- Community: so many google groups and mailing lists... how do I encourage more participation in mine? School of Open discussion list...
- Home page, Learn page: We have a logo -- can we feat. School of Open on the home page now?
- Yes - DU working on it (quick fix is to add to footer, longer-term we might bring back the Schools drop-down in the header)
- see alpha.p2pu.org with short term fix
- P2PU Turning 3
- Dates for timeline
- Thank yous to community
- Who wants to bake a giant cake? ME!!!
- Photos of people blowing out 3 candle cakes
- Illustrations by Alison? (I'm still waiting for my profile picture)
- have asked her to do this for the thank-you's, she's keen
- We need key dates from the community--let's ask them
- User Testing of P2PU Homepage Mockups
- Pop on over to the slideshare
- http://www.slideshare.net/VanessaGennarelli/user-research-p2puorg-home-page
- VMG -> There are several collaborative design tools out there, and I think that they are a way to combine ways of group collaboration/participation beyond a mailing list
- Slide 2 -> 2 key questions: can new learners find info they need to enroll? and Can organisers find the info they need to create a course?
- Slide 3: We used VerifyApp, and decided on 2 tests - a labelling test to see if new users "get" p2pu when they come to the site, and an annotation test, to see if organisers can get what they need
- Slide 4: We got 100 responses on the labelling test (1000 people looked at it)
- Slide 5: Results (some): our labelling does not come across as clear, the cover looks like a price tag (people expect to see a price there), create a course is an intimidating ask
- Slide 6: People HATE the activity feed.
- Current activity stream is not useful. Let's get rid of it.
- Long-term -> It's nice to get a sense of "activity" on the homepage, to feel like there is something going on here. Could put on the backburner and try to build a better activity stream at some point.
- Slide 7: suggestions: tweak cover slide (people want to know an organiser's name before they enroll), include signup button, include a "tour" function, insted of activity feed, could feature schools, badges, pictures and profiles of power users (+1 from Bekka)
- maybe we can show awarded badges instead of activity or pending badges
- Slide 8: Annotation test: this slide is a visualisation of this test's results
- Slide 9: "create a course" button more frequently used, people don't understnad why it's important to learn with peers, people are cinfused about the call to action,
- Slide 10: Reconsider the "find" versus "create" flow - let people see the courses before asking them to create - that way they become more familiar with the culture of P2PU.
- I like Option 2 (and would add schools and people)
- "Learn more" -> "Take a tour" (also recommended on slide 7)
- Slide 11: realisations for next time -
- Slide 12: talk to Dirk and Chris about implementation, Always Be Testing, results are on dropbox:
- Applause!! +1 (this is fantastic!)+1 many many times
- Philipp -> What I really like is the idea of using the home page to help people learn about the culture, and this should guide the design of the home page.
- It would be useful to show people courses, schools and people on the home page
- I like "take a tour", I think it's better than "learn more"
- VMG: I can write that content :) and I'm happy to help...
- Feedback seems to be that we need to get rid of the activity feed. Not that acivity feeds are bad, but right now ours sucks. So if we have one that listed interestng things, it would be a good idea to bring it back, but not right now.
- Philipp -> I don't think a designer is what we need right now, if we can get the CSS stuff up, then a lot of the design elements are in the framework, and we have a grid so it's about getting material into the grid. Then Chris and/or a front end developer can work on that
- Chris > I think we still need a look and feel though, because then we can implement stuff faster
- Dirk -> perhaps we can get a designer to come in and look at things every now and then, do evaluations, and fix the worst stuff, rather than overhauling the design completly.
- VMG -> So our workflow would be: I work with Chris to see what can be implemented now, and what still needs to be designed?
- Philipp -> I think a lot of it depends on how far we are with the CSS framework, becuase if we're close to having that ready, then we can get going on that quite quickly.
- Chris -> I think the CSS will be ready next week, so then we don't have to worry about duplicating stuff.
General discussion and questions
- Anything else that just needs to be said out loud
- South Africa is at the top of the ICC Test Cricket rankings!
- Vanessa is heading back to school---grrrrrrrr
