community-20130411

P2PU Community Call
11 April 2013
Seminar

GOOGLE HANGOUT: We're hanging out here: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/e770dc37646766233bdde30faa0a695bddbea450?authuser=1&hl=en Join us!

Attendees

Vanessa
Billly
Bekka
Peter
Philipp
Chris

Agenda

4Ps and and I reportback from staff

Progress (what we've been working on)
- Open Learning Hackathon
  - Site -> http://open.media.mit.edu
  - Hashtag #reclaimopen
  - Question: How do we add ourselves? Send pullrequest for hackathon.html page (optional people.html page)
- School of Data Explorer Mission
  - Email sending/scheduling
  - Content development
  - Announcement (60+ people signed up): http://schoolofdata.org/datamooc/
- Learned how to order coffee to go in German: Einen Kaffe zum Mitnehmen, bitte. (You're hysterical, Philipp)
- Berlin report
- blog / org admin
- newsletter
- Proposals (Mac Found -> Media Lab / Hewlett next phase)
- Presentation on P2PU/Mech Mooc/LCL at Harvard Graduate School of Education
- Hanging out with Bret Victor ;-)
Priorities (focus next week)
- Assessment writing
- Blog post on our culture
- Recovering from travel and not getting sick!
- Berlin report design
- Preparing Data factsheet for next week
- School of Ed report
- Getting the word out about Data Explorer Mission:
  - Point people to -> http://info.p2pu.org/2013/04/02/okfn-p2pu-partner-for-data-explorer-missions/
  - Who can we reach out to? Media? Twitter?
  - Yup, and the trick will be to be constant about it, keeping a sustained amount of noise, not just once off.
- Prepare board meeting (19 April)
Problems (walls we ran into on the way)
- Spam on the blog?
  - And notifications of comments not working!
Process (org stuff)
- Blog stats:
  - February: 14,471 views
  - March: 10,081 views
  - April (thus far): 3,552
- Fun stat: 50,000 accounts created on p2pu.org
Ideas (on the horizon)
- Besides Agora, does anyone have connections to coworking or hackerspaces in Berlin that Vanessa can talk to?
  - VMG: I spoke to a variety when planning the Berlin office - try the people at Supermarkt - http://www.supermarkt-berlin.net/ - we've used their space before, and they're good people and like P2PU
  - Also, Beta Haus, http://betahaus.de/?lang=en
  - Cool--the group I'm super keen on is http://co-up.de/ they have an open tech learning program that I'm buzzing about: http://www.opentechschool.org/
- https://medium.com/i-m-h-o/ef4772e3c628 Vanessa was very influenced by this blog post last week (from the guy who started Forrst, which Vanessa has a huge braincrush on)

Discussion

Badges (Rubric, ...)

Background:
- People don't know the difference between different badge systems - so Peter's aggregation is sorely needed
- Work with OERs started with wikieducator - got to the point where assessment and accreditation became the biggest questions.
- Immersed in the badges community to learn more about how badges work, as a first step to devleoping the School of Badges
Idea: People should be able to create their own badge curriculum - hence the badge system design course https://p2pu.org/en/groups/badge-system-design/
Peter's badge design rubric: (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak8Mcp1f93B1dHpOQVJnMzhJSm94Q1VsZHBySTZ3VlE#gid=0)
the idea of flipping assessment: http://criticaltechnology.blogspot.ca/2013/02/flipping-assessment.html
how I am implementing it within the challenge: http://criticaltechnology.blogspot.ca/2013/04/flipped-assessment-implemented.html

Questions:
- Can you use this rubric to evaluate a particular suite of badges within a larger system?
  - Rubric is trying to more for guidance than evaluating an existing badge system (but it would apply). I do see the rubric working in most situations. it is what I am aspiring too.
- P2PU is very uniquely user-generated content--(see Philipp's comment below) how does this less "formal" approach to badges fit into your rubric?
  - Thats the whole point IMO. helping people build there own accredition for their own curriculum, and courses they build for themselves or with a group. Heutagogy in practice, with accreditation, assessment is the next big challenge!
- What is the role of experimentation in your badge system evaluation?
- already these are great questions that could help make the rubric better...
This is very focused on "accreditation" and using badges as an alternative to existing certification options - is there room for community based badges that have no intention to become accreditation? yes
- Suggestion: expand the rubric, or make it explicit that the rubric focuses on a particular type of badges
Peter: All I know is I believe this community could provide valuable feedback of the rubric - think I need to find a more solid connectivity approach and join this call again. I really believe thier are some big experienced brains that could help here!!!! Let me experiment with some locations (I live on an island off the west coast of Canada, so G+ has sometimes been a problem, connectivity wise) Using a phone to call into the Hangout might be an idea, too.
- +1 Would be great to be able to really dig into this, but we need the connection to work for that
- Perhaps we can use the transcript of the call to motivate more questions - take the call video, copy critiques/questions etc into an email and use this to spark a discussion on the mailing list.
Peter: Thanks everyone!!!!!!!!!! +100k ;)

Board meeting preparation

Meeting Date: 19 April
What materials do we need (who can prepare them)?
- Finance update (budget) - PS
- Funding streams (current / future) - PS
- Reports on work we've done (short, maybe slides, we won't have time to go through these in the meeting) - I can help with this - ties directly in with the reports that I'm working on anyway
  - Badges - VMG http://www.slideshare.net/VanessaGennarelli/badge-spec-for-p2pu
  - Mech MOOC (Python) - BK/Steve Carson http://www.slideshare.net/VanessaGennarelli/presentation-for-open-education-week
  - Learning Creative Learning - BK/PS
  - New UX - Dirk
  - Story Hack Day: Vanessa http://info.p2pu.org/2012/10/01/the-hackathon-revamped-recs-for-mixing-hackers-storytellers/
  - Music Hack Day - Interactive Tools - CE
  - Berlin Report - BK
  - Open Learning Project/Hackathon - PS
  - Staff Update - PS
  - Research - Vanessa
  - Schools
    - School of Data - Vanessa (I don't think we have slides yet, but I can scrape together something :)
    - SOO - i'm already prepping stuff for CC board, can just send same talking points along (Jane)
      - challenges included in points- how to scale? etc.
    - School of Ed - Karen
  - Assessment - PS
  - General P2PU Labs (a few sentences to set up, and then list "Labs" projects underneath)
  - Data Policy - BK/ P is just going to say this is happening.
  - Grants - PS
    - Shuttleworth (Lab)
    - Hewlett (Assesssment)
    - OSF (School of Data)
- Data policy - this affects them right? cuz they are legally responsible
  - PS: Won't be able to bring it to the board for this meeting. We're not quite ready for making a recommendation. Can handle it by email with the board after the meeting.
Notes / Lab - Community
- We've been good at one-off prototyping, and leveraging partnerships to do these
- But we haven't been so good at building long-term platform and service stuff (this has a sustainability element to it)
- Want to get an idea from the board in terms of what they feel we should do, in terms of strategy
- P's preference:
  - 1 approach: here's what we do, how do we make this more durable
  - 2nd approach: wht have we always wanted to do, that nobody else has, and how can we make that happen?
  - Included in this is us needing to think what the relationship between P2PU and the Media Lab is
Topics staff/community are interested in:
- Sustainability / enduring communities
- Can the board get more actively involved in fund-raising?
2 Topics for the meeting:
- Finance update
- Strategy - Lab/Community/Media Lab - 1/2 slides per item

oined group chat.

me
3:54 PM
Hey Peter
I have my mic on muet
mute
becuase of cnstruction
outside my wondow

Peter Rawsthorne
3:55 PM
could you here me

me
3:55 PM
I mean, construction outside my window
I can hear you
loud and clear

Peter Rawsthorne
3:55 PM
sweet

me
3:55 PM
sure

Peter Rawsthorne
3:56 PM
can you see my screenshare

me
3:56 PM
nope

Peter Rawsthorne
3:56 PM
bummer

me
3:56 PM
but maybe I have to do it, since I started the call?
is that working?

Peter Rawsthorne
3:57 PM
maybe not a ggod idea from my end...
I will be bandwidth challenged
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me
3:58 PM
Fair enough
Perhaps we can post links in the etherpad?
And then people will be able to look at the right stuff

Chris Ewald
3:58 PM
HI All

me
3:58 PM
hey chris

Peter Rawsthorne
3:58 PM
yes in the etherpad
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Vanessa Gennarelli
3:59 PM
BONJOUR!
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Billy Meinke
3:59 PM
good moooorning

Chris Ewald
4:00 PM
hello
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Billy Meinke
4:00 PM
Michelle Thorne?
ya
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Philipp Schmidt
4:02 PM
someone is typing furiously...

me
4:02 PM
Mic muted

Vanessa Gennarelli
4:02 PM
THATS ME
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Vanessa Gennarelli
4:02 PM
I HAVE STOPPED TYPING
P has serious face on

Billy Meinke
4:03 PM
haha

Vanessa Gennarelli
4:03 PM
Watch out
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me
4:03 PM
Just going to close some windows
against jackhammers
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Vanessa Gennarelli
4:04 PM
hand

Philipp Schmidt
4:05 PM
Just read the email

Vanessa Gennarelli
4:05 PM
kk
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Vanessa Gennarelli
4:06 PM
lolz

Philipp Schmidt
4:06 PM
hand
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me
4:06 PM
Nice sunshine, Chris

Billy Meinke
4:06 PM
+1 on sunshine

Chris Ewald
4:08 PM
sunny SF is great

Billy Meinke
4:09 PM
@Chris- you in SF? Should meet up while you're here
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Vanessa Gennarelli
4:11 PM
YAYTIMES!!!

Chris Ewald
4:11 PM
awesome - yeah

Vanessa Gennarelli
4:11 PM
P
what do you want us to provide?
for that meeting?

Philipp Schmidt
4:11 PM
Which meeting?
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Vanessa Gennarelli
4:12 PM
community call
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Philipp Schmidt
4:13 PM
What is the problem?
Can you show an example?

Vanessa Gennarelli
4:13 PM
its been going to me

Philipp Schmidt
4:13 PM
Were they blog comments or disqus comment?

Vanessa Gennarelli
4:14 PM
bizarrely
blog comments, methinks

Philipp Schmidt
4:14 PM
What has been going to you, Vanessa?

Jane Park
4:14 PM
ive gotten notifications for my posts and pagse
pages*

Vanessa Gennarelli
4:14 PM
*ive been getting them because they are on my posts
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Billy Meinke
4:23 PM
hey Peter

me
4:25 PM
https://p2pu.org/en/groups/badge-system-design/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak8Mcp1f93B1dHpOQVJnMzhJSm94Q1VsZHBySTZ3VlE#gid=0

Billy Meinke
4:26 PM
can't hear, maybe Peter can phone into the Hangout?

Philipp Schmidt
4:28 PM
hand

Chris Ewald
4:29 PM
me too

Philipp Schmidt
4:29 PM
same here
and i don't think he can hear us

me
4:29 PM
Hey Peter - we keep losing you
is it okay if we ask you some questions
to try and fill in the gaps?
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Vanessa Gennarelli
4:38 PM
story hack!

Chris Ewald
4:41 PM
interesting
metrics of success
I can do the slides on the Python MOOC

Jane Park
5:00 PM
bye
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Billy Meinke
5:00 PM
gotta run too, for the SOO call
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Vanessa Gennarelli
5:02 PM
SEVERITY FROM BEKKA

Chris Ewald
5:04 PM
sounds good
bye all